Saturday, 29 August 2015

Doing a Talk on Corrie



Sheffield, my hometown, is having a bit of a festival moment. As a result, I’ve been asked to do a talk. The only trouble is I don’t know when, but have been told to be ‘ready to roll’ from about 19th September.

There are several things that I could talk about but only one that I would really like to talk about –Coronation Street, of course, and our wonderful blog in particular, with  much gratitude to Glenda for starting the whole thing off.

My plan for the talk is essentially this -:

·      Beginnings - Tony Warren - his vision
·      Facts and figures – audience viewings, number of hotpots sold etc.
·      Issues raised in Corrie
·      The women  - in general
·      Characters – Elsie Tanner, Ena Sharples, Hilda Ogden, Emily Bishop, Bet Lynch, Rita Tanner, Deirdre, Carla Connor, Mary Taylor – detailed character analysis and their individual speech styles
·      The men – holding back the women – general theme.
·      Details of men and their secondary role – as envisaged by Tony Warren
·      How the show has changed or not, through the decades.
·      Snobbery surrounding soaps, lighthearted comparison to the great dramatists
·      And then finally, some clips – including-: death of Stan Ogden - Hilda and the glasses, Death of Martha Longhurst, rows between Ena and Elsie. And some modern stuff.  There is SO much, it is difficult to be sure that you have the best bits.


I would be very grateful for your assistance here, my fellow bloggers and our much valued and loyal readers. Is there anything that you think is CRUCIAL in a talk about Corrie that I have not touched on?

Btw did you know that in 1990 Hilda Ogden was the 4th most recognizable woman in Britain, after the Queen, the Queen Mother and Princess Di?

And this – Blanche Hunt – ‘Good looks are a curse Deirdre. You and Kenneth have been very lucky.’


Very much looking forward to your comments. Thank you.
Download our free App | Follow on Twitter @CoroStreetBlog | Like on Facebook | Visit Corrie.net


Creative Commons Licence
All original work on the Coronation Street Blog is covered by a Creative Commons License

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Perhaps this is incorporated in your themes but Corrie has always been about class mobility or the difficulty of it in British society. Ken trying the better himself through education has been a spectacular failure (he ended up as trolley pusher for Fresco). Various smart kids on the street have been marked for success but end up not fulfilling their potential (Todd, Amber, Rosie). Some try to rise above their station through the trappings of middle class life , Sally and her conservatory, Hilda and her muriel, Vera and her stone cladding. Even the ones who have crawled out of the estate, such as Carla, find themselves being dragged back down again and again through alcohol or gambling. Some, like Leanne, tried to rise above her upbringing by embracing it, becoming an 'escort' with an agency but realized she was regarded as no better than a streetwalker. Good luck with your talk and hope this helps.

Anonymous said...

Your outline sounds great! 2 questions: how long do you have to speak and who is your audience? Depending on the answers, you might consider adding something about how Tony Warren channeled gay male identity through female characters in an era where representation of gay male stories was taboo. Look forward to hearing more about your talk. Hopefully you'll blog about it!
-ELK

Llifon said...

That unique mix of humour and drama.

And its longevity and what do you think has contributed to this?

Cobblestone said...

Wow! Ruth, that's not so much an outline of a talk as a programme of study for an entire course! You've covered so many valid and interesting points but my advice would be to drop some that you think are not as important as others. It's best not to try to cram everything in. It'll take ages to deliver (before you even reach the clips!) and your audience will feel a little overwhelmed. (I speak as a former university lecturer who has blundered into those same pitfalls) I'd also suggest that instead of playing a series a clips at the end, you use the clips illustratively as you go along. This breaks up what would otherwise be a very long block of text. Many people, especially nowadays, have short attention spans and don't find listening for long stretches easy. Incorporating the clips would be a way of introducing a visual component into the talk itself. No matter how interesting your talk is, they will start to fidget unless you break it up a bit.
I wish you every success with the talk. What a fantastic opportunity to 'spread the word'!

Humpty Dumpty said...

Sounds great and very best of luck with it. Perhaps you could mention how Corrie was born in the era of 'kitchen sink' (Elsie and Dennis Tanner) and 'angry young men'(young Ken Barlow); the class divide between educated aspirational middle class v. traditional working class (Ken v Len Fairclough. You could mention the soap bubble that Corrie resident live in eg: the Nazirs and Ken would be living in leafy suburbs in real life but that doesn't fit the script. Such a lot of material, Ruth! Hope you have a ball.

Sally Dee said...

Hi Ruth, This sounds like a great opportunity, thanks for including us readers. The unique format of soaps & Corrie's longevity allows us to follow the arc of human development as a young character retires or even dies. Perhaps you could consider an example of how a character stays true to their core personality yet changes in response to their life's circumstances - an arc of redemption? grief-driven acceptance and peace? limited growth due to traumas? Just thinking of this component might inform the already full list of topics you're considering.

And I think ELK's comment above is interesting, would love to hear about that myself.

Enjoy yourself! - xx, Sally

Tvor said...

Excellent! And you know what? Rather than worry about getting all the best and classic bits in, why not base it on your own personal favourites?

ruth owen said...

Anonymous, many thanks. As yet I don't know how long I will have for the talk so I'm making sure I have plenty of material. I could though probably talk about my all time favourite, Elsie Tanner, until the cows come home. Great point about channelling male gay identity through the women - will definitely point that out. As to audience, I imagine it wil be members of the public, no particular demographic. Thank you again.

ruth owen said...

Yes Llifon, , the unique mix of humour and drama and the reasons for the show's longevity - great points, many thanks.

ruth owen said...

Cobblestone, thank you so much for your thoughtful and incisive points. I must not drone on and excellent idea to incorporate the clips into the body of the talk. I confess to having included too much and will now, with confidence, chop it down. You're of course right about it being an opportunity to spread the word and I will be nothing if not an evangelist. Very grateful for your valuable input.

ruth owen said...

Humpty, thank you very much for your point on kitchen sink dramas and Angry Young men. What you said put me in mind of Stan Barstow, Alan Sillitoe and and co too. Great stuff - thank you!

ruth owen said...

Fabulous comments Sally Dee! Yes indeed, tracing the development of characters is a great idea. Thank you so much!

ruth owen said...

Tvor, you're right. In the end to make the talk 'work' I have to be interested and enthusiastic in what I'm saying. Excellent advice and thank you!

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous 16:30 - those are great points. I'd love to read a blog post on class mobility.

Related Posts Plugin for WordPress, Blogger...

Our Top 10 Blog Posts in last 7 days (automatically updated)

Click on a name to find out more about your Corrie favourites!

adam barlow aidan connor alan halsall alex bain alexander bain alison king alison sinclair all about soap awards alma baldwin amy barlow amy kelly andrea beckett andy whyment anna windass antony cotton audrey roberts awards baby Oliver barbara knox barlows battleaxes becky mcdonald behind the scenes ben price ben tagoe bet gilroy bet lynch beth tinker bethany platt betty driver betty turpin betty williams betty's hotpot bev callard beverley callard bill roache billy mayhew billy the vicar blanche hunt brian packham brooke vincent bruno langley can i visit the coronation street set Canada canadian coronation street fans carla connor Cath Tyldesley catherine tyldesley cathy matthews celebrities on coronation street characters joining coronation street characters leaving coronation street cherylee houston chesney brown chris gascoyne chris harper claire king classic corrie clothes worn on coronation street colson smith competition connor mcintyre conversation street coronation street coronation street art coronation street babies Coronation Street Blog - the book coronation street cartoons coronation street fan events coronation street fan of the week coronation street fans coronation street funerals coronation street history coronation street in canada coronation street look-a-like coronation street map coronation street men coronation street merchandise coronation street news coronation street preview coronation street spoilers coronation street weekly update coronation street weekly updates coronation street writers craig tinker damon alexis-rochefort damon rochefort daniel brocklebank daran little david neilson david platt debbie oates debbie rush debbie webster deirdre barlow deirdre hunt denise osbourne derek griffiths dev alahan eileen derbyshire eileen grimshaw Elle Mulvaney ellie leach ellie-louise leach elsie tanner emily bishop emily nugent ena sharples erica stewart exclusive interview exercise dvds famous people who have been in corrie fat brenda favourite females favourite males faye windass feckless fellas in coronation street filming locations filming mistakes fiz brown fiz stape florizel street flying ducks gail rodwell gary windass gary's army diaries gay and lesbians gay men in coronation street gay men in soaps gay women in soaps granada manchester coronation street set granada studios gurn of the week helen flanagan helen worth hilda ogden hilda ogden's curlers Hope Stape hot pot how to contact coronation street inside soap inside soap magazine izzy armstrong jack p shepherd Jack P. Shepherd jane danson jean alexander jennie mcalpine jigsaw jimmi harkishin job vacancies at coronation street joe duttine johnny connor jonathan harvey julie goodyear julie hesmondhalgh kabin kate fitzgerald kate ford katherine kelly kathy jones katie mcglynn ken barlow kev webster kevin webster kieran roberts kirk sutherland kylie platt kylie turner kym marsh leanne barlow leanne battersby leanne tilsley liam bairstow lily platt lisa george liz mcdonald lloyd mullaney Lucy Fallon luke britton maggie jones malcolm hebden manchester tart marc baylis maria connor mark llewellin martin sterling mary taylor matriachs maxine's bench michael le vell michelle connor mikey north mikey north miley windass minnie caldwell mothers on the cobbles music in the rovers nathan curtis new set new zealand newton and ridley nick tilsley nick's bistro nigel pivaro no.1 Coronation Street no.11 coronation street no.13 coronation street no.3 coronation street no.5 coronation street no.6 coronation street no.7 coronation street no.9 coronation street norris cole norris cole's brother nuttalls brewery odd side of the street official coronation street website oldham coliseum oliver battersby on location opening titles original cast our blog is the best blog in the world outside broadcast paper boys paper girls pat phelan pat phoenix patti claire patti clare paula lane peter barlow peter gunn pets on coronation street pictures of the coronation street set pigeons pillars of the community platt family plot holes props qasim akhtar quay street returning characters rita fairclough rita littlewood rita sullivan rita tanner road to coronation street rob donovan rob mallard romanian holiday rosamund street rosie webster rovers bosses rovers fire rovers return rovers return barmaids rovers return fire rovers return landlady roy and hayley roy cropper roy's rolls roys rolls ryan thomas sair khan sally webster sally and tim sally dynevor sally dyvenor Sally Metcalfe sally webster sally whittaker sam aston samia ghadie samia longchambon sarah platt Sarah-Louise Platt schmeichel sean tully shayne ward shelley king simon barlow simon crowther simon gregson sinead tinker six episodes per week sophie webster special effects speculation spin-off spoilers state of the street steve mcdonald storyline speculation storylines streetcars sue cleaver sue johnston sue nicholls susan barlow susan oudot sylvia cropper sylvia goodwin terry duckworth the corrie years the kabin the Nazirs the newspaper boy the road to coronation street through the years tim metcalfe tina o'bren tina o'brien Tina O’Brien tiricia hopkins todd grimshaw tony warren Tony Warren inspiration tours of coronation street toyah battersby tracy barlow trafford set tram crash tricia hopkins tyrone dobbs underworld underworld sign unofficial book unofficial merchandise unseen characters viaduct street victoria court fire vip bloggers walking tours watch coronation street online weatherfield weatherfield arms weatherfield council weatherfield county weatherfield county football club weatherfield fire station weatherfield gazette weatherfield haulage Weatherfield high Weatherfield Open Days weatherfield style weatherfield wayfarer websters' autos wedding wedding dress weddings weekly awards weekly update where have you seen william roache William Roache Interview window cleaners writers for soaps Yasmeen nazir zeedan nazir